Should medical marijuana use limit Second Amendment rights? Joseph Greenlee, Second Amendment attorney, explains the contradiction in state and federal …
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Legalize It! This is government overreach on our lives. Weed should be Legal, our Second Amendment should apply to Marijuana Users because Marijuana is a medicine/substance that has been proven to be healthy and non-dangerous. George Washington smoked weed and he led us into battle against the British. Nearly every US President has had some experience with Marijuana. It is a very healthy substance and the only reason it is illegal is because of the war on drugs/racism, Its just a way for the government and police to justify destroying black neighborhoods and arresting plugs hippies and others using marijuana as a reason why. Its my constitutional right to light up a joint as long as I am not endangering the lives of others. Just get away from other people bc 2nd hand smoke.
Yes this is the law in Pennsylvania. I know because I need med's to cover my spinal pain (3 fractured vertebra) permanent damage. I live in PA. Depending on the mood of the officer that comes in contact with you, you might be arrested by State & or Federal laws. Thats not the local jail, thats FEDERAL Prison. My Dr.'s will no longer (past 2 years) prescribe me meds that actually work (narcotics). I take high levels of gabapentin which actually will make a person feel higher than the THC in marijuana but for me do nothing for pain levels. What the Doctors Now Do is prescribe Medical Marijuana, it's their cure all drug of choice. I don't like being high and I don't drink alcohol (which is fine by the PA courts for people to use alcohol and carry a fire arm) which I believe is far far worse than smoking marijuana. For me, my decision in order not to be held at the mercy of the police, local & state & the courts, and be imprisoned, was to sell off my weapons. I can no longer defend myself and carry and have had the 2nd Amendment taken away from me. I can't even go to the firing range and fire my rifle. If I'm seen at the range I can be arrested on site. I've sold every gun I owned just to feel safe from the police and the PA government but must live in extreme pain every day. This is Pennsylvania taking away the 2nd Amendment from us who need medication to live day to day. I suppose I'm expected to become an alcoholic instead. Our governor lost my respect, its a cheap and sneaky gun ban. I can not defend myself & my family, if I do… I go to prison.
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Shall not be infringed ! According to Federal law if your prescribed pain killers for a Root Canal and you own guns your breaking the law… Someone needs to fix this… Last I checked we the people realy don't have control over our politicians so…. how will this get fixed ? especially when Big Pharma doesn't want MM to be prescribed at all… and big Pharma owns the politicians… it's a sticky situation.
Marijuana is still against federal law, so when states choose to make it legal for medical reasons or recreational people don't realize you can still be arrested for it at the federal level in fact there has been a few despensery owners arrested for sales.
Mind altering? Same as beer you know! When sober, you are not altered at all in any negative way. If anything, it's like the guy who drinks a shot before bed like me to get slightly better sleep – later on you really would be safer armed than if not. But no one is saying we need to smoke the worlds largest joint and shoot a damn M60. It's like they think Americans ONLY like using guns if used dangerously or something.
Ask yourself, who benefits from this ? First, Big Government because an unarmed populace can't fight back tyranny. Secondly, Big Pharmaceutical Companies because why try cannabis when "WE" already have what you need, despite the thousands of people who have died because of their drugs. Someone please explain to me how anyone can consider a pothead as dangerous ? I mean, most people I know that smoke weed just want to eat and go to sleep.
There is a clause under 27 CFR as 478.1 , which prohibits addicts and drug users from owning a firearm, that says ; " and any person who is a current user of a controlled substance IN A MANNER OTHER THAN AS PRESCRIBED BY A LICENSED PHYSICIAN. . . " . My question is, if a doctor prescribes medicinal marijuana to you then how can they clump you in with addicts and drug abusers who shouldn't own a firearm ? Next they will tell you that because you broke your leg and we have to prescribe you some pain meds, so you have to turn your gun in at the pharmacy when you pick up your drugs.
Shout out to all the retards who support NRA hahahahaha you think they give a fuck about your gun rights hahahaha. They were bought out by the feds long ago you dummies.
Marijuana was made illegal because of financial and political reasons. It gave control political and financial to certain people for their own gain. It has nothing to do with marijuana being dangerous. We need to start telling the injustice of this by our government
our government are fucking criminals. i was DUPED into this shit because i have a son who is desperately in need of medical marijuana and i got him a card and i got a card too so i could go get his medicine. it was not explained to me during the process of getting these cards that i would have to give up firearms (if i had any, which i dont anymore). from personal experience….. weed does not alter the mind in any negative way other than making a person paranoid for a few minutes that the police is gonna bust in the door and slaughter everyone. i am so sick of the gov taking our freedoms in a country build on freedom. i am so sick of watching the gov ruin countries around the world for resources and god knows what else. america the enslaved and the home of the brainwashed. DEAR GOV…..YOU DONT FUCK WITH THE 2ND AMENDMENT! YOU ARE CHARGED WITH UPHOLDING THE FOUNDING LAWS….NOT TAKING THEM AWAY FOR CORRUPT REASONS! Our gov needs a HARD RESET and the ban hammer thrown at those who would fuck us out of our rights. if i only had the resources the leave america i would. KEEP YOUR GODDAM WEED!
They offered me 5 years no parole because I own legal guns with receipts and had legal marijuana with a medical card. Just because they were both together in my home I was arrested and charged with several felonies. I have court coming up soon, this is just ridiculous
As a recently disgruntled 30 year plus NRA endowment member, and as someone who personally knows veterans with PTSD as well as MS patients who’ve had their 2nd Amendment rights summarily denied simply because they were issued medical marijuana cards by their doctors, this issue drives me absolutely nuts.. The NRA, who's motto is "freedom first", has been suspiciously silent on this entire issue, which is something that I personally consider a de facto NRA endorsement of this current marijuana/2nd Amendment denial policy.. The Trump administration, which won several formerly blue states in part because of a strong pro 2nd Amendment platform, supports this anti-gun Obama instigated DOJ policy as well.. The "public safety" nature of this issue is nothing but a red herring, and it's being used as an excuse to deny an unalienable natural right to American citizens that "shall not be infringed".. IMO the primary reason for this is just so big pharmaceutical lobbies can continue to push their products without any competitive alternative medications for chronic pain, PTSD, etc being allowed by our federal government, and it’s really no more complicated than that!.. The current Washington DC pseudo outrage over the opioid epidemic, while simultaneously refusing to legalize medical marijuana, is the epitome of political hypocrisy.. It’s also important to note that the 2nd Amendment is the ONLY right in the Bill of Rights that can be summarily denied without the benefit due process as well.. As of now, the Trump Administration is on the record for having sided with the insanely ant-gun 9th Circuit Court.. And unless something gives, the Administration will apparently be soliciting the SCOTUS with their "public safety" nonsense, something that I'm sure Justices Sotomayor, Ginsburg, Stevens, and Kagen will rule in favor of.. Hopefully though, Thomas, Gorsuch, Alito, Kennedy, and Roberts, will see past this political cash inspired charade and right this wrong once and for all.. A proper Court ruling will NOT legalize marijuana at the federal level as this is still arguably a states rights issue..However, the SCOTUS needs to immediately halt the unconstitutional denial of any and all natural unalienable rights posthaste!..
What about people on opiates, when abused I have seen some crazy violence just to obtain the drug. MMJ has a very calming effect. I just don't see this being a problem unless drug dealers are involved. It is quite a process to get MMJ as well as the state of Fl is not allowing you to smoke. It is truly medication and the people that do get it need it. Don't think being very ill and use of MMJ is going to cause an epidemic of randomly sick people start running around shooting. They aren't high or confused. Low THC. Drinking and guns don't mix, I have been a vovc that involved alcohol and a gun. I was not drinking nor did I have the gun. Just leave it at that.
They can not and would easily lose in supreme Court because there is no way for them to say that you are intoxicated without failing a DUI test so NO THEY CAN NOT ARREST YOU FOR FUTURE CRIME ITS EASY THEY HAVE AN INEBRIATION TEST SO IF YOUR FOCUS IS OFF ( YOU COULD HAVE THESE SYMPTOMS FROM OTHER THINGS OR VARIOUS DRUGS) IF YOU CANT CONTROL YOUR MOTOR SKILLS AND ARE DIZZY (CANT WALK ON STRAIGHT LINE) EYES BECOME LAZY AND YOU ARE IN PUBLIC ZONE THAN MAYBE THEY COULD SAY YOU WERE DANGEROUS BUT THEY CANNOT ( WITHOUT PULLING SOMETHING ILLEGAL) PUT YOU IN JAIL WOTHOUT FIRDT PROVING BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT YOU WERE INTOXICATED BUT NOT THAT YOU WERE JUST INTOXICATED BUT YOU HAD THAT GUN AT THAT MOMENT OF ARREST IN POSESSION BUT NOT JUST IN POSESSION BUT LEGALLY THE Y WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU HAD INTENT LEGALLY THEY CAN NOT DO SHIT WITHOUT MOTIVE OR INTENT ESPECIALLY SINCE ALL OF THIS IS SO CONFUSING IN REALITY HOW DOES IT WORK THEN WITH OFFICERS ON OPIATE MEDS HUH?? OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON MEDICATION WHILE IN A FIRE FIGHT BUT SIMPLE POSSESSION IN CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGAL AND ALL THESE AMENDMENTS WERE ILLEGAL THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO USE DONT LET THEM TRY TO SCARE YOU JUDGES DONT LIKE CIRCUSES NOR DO DA. YOUR LAWYER WILL FIND ALL THE MISTAKES THEY MADE (WHICH WILL BE MANY AND THESE PEOPLE CAN NOT FIGHT YOU IF YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL MEDICAL AILMENT) AGAIN WE ARE ALOUD TO DRIVE AND HAVE MEDS JUST NOT BE ON THEM IN TIME OF DRIVING SO THEY HAVE NO BACKBONE OR BARRING TO STAND IN WHEN IT COMES TO CHARGING YOU FOR FUTURE CRIME. THEY CANT EVEN SAY YOU WHERE A MENACE AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE STATE GUIDES AS EVIDENCE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LEGITIMATE STUDIES ON THE MEDICINAL VALUE THIS IS THEM DOING SHADY SHIT AND THESE KANGAROO COURT ARE BREAKING DOWN WITHIN THEY ARE TRYING TO OVERFILL PRISONS SO THEY CAN GET A BIGGER LOAN AND SAY THEY NEED THE MONEY WHEN THEY ARE STEALING MONEY I HAVE NO IDEA WHY NO LAWYER IS SMART ENOUGH TO TAKE IT TO SUPREME COURT ITS EASY ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SECOND AMENDMENT THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE A DANGER TO YOURSELF OR OTHERS BECAUSE ANYONE CAN SEE VIOLENCE CAN BE CAUSED BY PSYCHOTROPIC MEDICINE WAY MORE THAN MMJ AND THAT WOULD BE PROVEN OBJECTIVELY IN SUPREME COURT WITH A JURY ESPECIALLY IF YOU TESTIFY TO ITS MEDICINAL BENEFITS AND HAVE WITNESSES TO YOUR AILMENT EVEN IF YOU DIDNT HAVE YOUR CARD! LAWYERS NEED TO STOP BEING PUSSIES AND START TRYING TO BRING THIS TO SUPREME COURT!
I know that it is illegal to be in possession of a firearm when intoxicated, so obviously it's a no-no with marijuana. In fact, it's worse since it's a schedule 1 substance, whereas alcohol isn't even registered.
Legalize It! This is government overreach on our lives. Weed should be Legal, our Second Amendment should apply to Marijuana Users because Marijuana is a medicine/substance that has been proven to be healthy and non-dangerous. George Washington smoked weed and he led us into battle against the British. Nearly every US President has had some experience with Marijuana. It is a very healthy substance and the only reason it is illegal is because of the war on drugs/racism, Its just a way for the government and police to justify destroying black neighborhoods and arresting plugs hippies and others using marijuana as a reason why. Its my constitutional right to light up a joint as long as I am not endangering the lives of others. Just get away from other people bc 2nd hand smoke.
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Yes this is the law in Pennsylvania. I know because I need med's to cover my spinal pain (3 fractured vertebra) permanent damage. I live in PA. Depending on the mood of the officer that comes in contact with you, you might be arrested by State & or Federal laws. Thats not the local jail, thats FEDERAL Prison. My Dr.'s will no longer (past 2 years) prescribe me meds that actually work (narcotics). I take high levels of gabapentin which actually will make a person feel higher than the THC in marijuana but for me do nothing for pain levels. What the Doctors Now Do is prescribe Medical Marijuana, it's their cure all drug of choice. I don't like being high and I don't drink alcohol (which is fine by the PA courts for people to use alcohol and carry a fire arm) which I believe is far far worse than smoking marijuana. For me, my decision in order not to be held at the mercy of the police, local & state & the courts, and be imprisoned, was to sell off my weapons. I can no longer defend myself and carry and have had the 2nd Amendment taken away from me. I can't even go to the firing range and fire my rifle. If I'm seen at the range I can be arrested on site. I've sold every gun I owned just to feel safe from the police and the PA government but must live in extreme pain every day. This is Pennsylvania taking away the 2nd Amendment from us who need medication to live day to day. I suppose I'm expected to become an alcoholic instead. Our governor lost my respect, its a cheap and sneaky gun ban. I can not defend myself & my family, if I do… I go to prison.
Alcohol is a mind altering drug, more appt'd to get drunk and shoot someone, than a cannabis user.
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Why is he smiling so much.. He thinks it's funny?
Stupid bitch fuck the law we should be able to own a gun even if we smoke weed bitch
Shall not be infringed ! According to Federal law if your prescribed pain killers for a Root Canal and you own guns your breaking the law… Someone needs to fix this… Last I checked we the people realy don't have control over our politicians so…. how will this get fixed ?
especially when Big Pharma doesn't want MM to be prescribed at all… and big Pharma owns the politicians… it's a sticky situation.
Marijuana is still against federal law, so when states choose to make it legal for medical reasons or recreational people don't realize you can still be arrested for it at the federal level in fact there has been a few despensery owners arrested for sales.
What about drinking alchohol and being a gun owner alchohol is mind altering right? What the fuck!?!?!?
Mind altering? Same as beer you know! When sober, you are not altered at all in any negative way. If anything, it's like the guy who drinks a shot before bed like me to get slightly better sleep – later on you really would be safer armed than if not. But no one is saying we need to smoke the worlds largest joint and shoot a damn M60. It's like they think Americans ONLY like using guns if used dangerously or something.
I see no problem with both just a bunch of sleepy people at the range
THEN PEOPLE WHO DRINK SHOULDNT HAVE guns either.
wow..Knew it was a catch
Alcohol is even more mind altering though
Ask yourself, who benefits from this ? First, Big Government because an unarmed populace can't fight back tyranny. Secondly, Big Pharmaceutical Companies because why try cannabis when "WE" already have what you need, despite the thousands of people who have died because of their drugs. Someone please explain to me how anyone can consider a pothead as dangerous ? I mean, most people I know that smoke weed just want to eat and go to sleep.
There is a clause under 27 CFR as 478.1 , which prohibits addicts and drug users from owning a firearm, that says ; " and any person who is a current user of a controlled substance IN A MANNER OTHER THAN AS PRESCRIBED BY A LICENSED PHYSICIAN. . . " . My question is, if a doctor prescribes medicinal marijuana to you then how can they clump you in with addicts and drug abusers who shouldn't own a firearm ? Next they will tell you that because you broke your leg and we have to prescribe you some pain meds, so you have to turn your gun in at the pharmacy when you pick up your drugs.
Shout out to all the retards who support NRA hahahahaha you think they give a fuck about your gun rights hahahaha. They were bought out by the feds long ago you dummies.
Just got to find the right politicians to pay off!
Marijuana was made illegal because of financial and political reasons. It gave control political and financial to certain people for their own gain. It has nothing to do with marijuana being dangerous. We need to start telling the injustice of this by our government
our government are fucking criminals. i was DUPED into this shit because i have a son who is desperately in need of medical marijuana and i got him a card and i got a card too so
i could go get his medicine. it was not explained to me during the process of getting these cards that i would have to give up firearms (if i had any, which i dont anymore). from personal
experience….. weed does not alter the mind in any negative way other than making a person paranoid for a few minutes that the police is gonna bust in the door and slaughter everyone.
i am so sick of the gov taking our freedoms in a country build on freedom. i am so sick of watching the gov ruin countries around the world for resources and god knows what else. america the enslaved and the home of the brainwashed. DEAR GOV…..YOU DONT FUCK WITH THE 2ND AMENDMENT! YOU ARE CHARGED WITH UPHOLDING THE FOUNDING LAWS….NOT TAKING THEM
AWAY FOR CORRUPT REASONS! Our gov needs a HARD RESET and the ban hammer thrown at those who would fuck us out of our rights. if i only had the resources the leave america i would.
KEEP YOUR GODDAM WEED!
Big Pharma has to have something to do with this. Plus the Government.
Since Alcohol has caused more deaths than Marijuana ever will, How does this not apply to it?????
i know tons of people with med cards that own guns
They offered me 5 years no parole because I own legal guns with receipts and had legal marijuana with a medical card. Just because they were both together in my home I was arrested and charged with several felonies. I have court coming up soon, this is just ridiculous
Let's be honest. A crackhead or methhead is more violent than a peaceful pothead.
The right to bear arms shall NOT be infringed upon.
Geez, I thought that listening to this guy all the way through would actually lead up to something..
As a recently disgruntled 30 year plus NRA endowment member, and as someone who personally knows veterans with PTSD as well as MS patients who’ve had their 2nd Amendment rights summarily denied simply because they were issued medical marijuana cards by their doctors, this issue drives me absolutely nuts.. The NRA, who's motto is "freedom first", has been suspiciously silent on this entire issue, which is something that I personally consider a de facto NRA endorsement of this current marijuana/2nd Amendment denial policy.. The Trump administration, which won several formerly blue states in part because of a strong pro 2nd Amendment platform, supports this anti-gun Obama instigated DOJ policy as well.. The "public safety" nature of this issue is nothing but a red herring, and it's being used as an excuse to deny an unalienable natural right to American citizens that "shall not be infringed".. IMO the primary reason for this is just so big pharmaceutical lobbies can continue to push their products without any competitive alternative medications for chronic pain, PTSD, etc being allowed by our federal government, and it’s really no more complicated than that!.. The current Washington DC pseudo outrage over the opioid epidemic, while simultaneously refusing to legalize medical marijuana, is the epitome of political hypocrisy.. It’s also important to note that the 2nd Amendment is the ONLY right in the Bill of Rights that can be summarily denied without the benefit due process as well.. As of now, the Trump Administration is on the record for having sided with the insanely ant-gun 9th Circuit Court.. And unless something gives, the Administration will apparently be soliciting the SCOTUS with their "public safety" nonsense, something that I'm sure Justices Sotomayor, Ginsburg, Stevens, and Kagen will rule in favor of.. Hopefully though, Thomas, Gorsuch, Alito, Kennedy, and Roberts, will see past this political cash inspired charade and right this wrong once and for all.. A proper Court ruling will NOT legalize marijuana at the federal level as this is still arguably a states rights issue..However, the SCOTUS needs to immediately halt the unconstitutional denial of any and all natural unalienable rights posthaste!..
Shall not be infringed !
What about people on opiates, when abused I have seen some crazy violence just to obtain the drug. MMJ has a very calming effect. I just don't see this being a problem unless drug dealers are involved. It is quite a process to get MMJ as well as the state of Fl is not allowing you to smoke. It is truly medication and the people that do get it need it. Don't think being very ill and use of MMJ is going to cause an epidemic of randomly sick people start running around shooting. They aren't high or confused. Low THC. Drinking and guns don't mix, I have been a vovc that involved alcohol and a gun. I was not drinking nor did I have the gun. Just leave it at that.
They can not and would easily lose in supreme Court because there is no way for them to say that you are intoxicated without failing a DUI test so NO THEY CAN NOT ARREST YOU FOR FUTURE CRIME ITS EASY THEY HAVE AN INEBRIATION TEST SO IF YOUR FOCUS IS OFF ( YOU COULD HAVE THESE SYMPTOMS FROM OTHER THINGS OR VARIOUS DRUGS) IF YOU CANT CONTROL YOUR MOTOR SKILLS AND ARE DIZZY (CANT WALK ON STRAIGHT LINE) EYES BECOME LAZY AND YOU ARE IN PUBLIC ZONE THAN MAYBE THEY COULD SAY YOU WERE DANGEROUS BUT THEY CANNOT ( WITHOUT PULLING SOMETHING ILLEGAL) PUT YOU IN JAIL WOTHOUT FIRDT PROVING BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT YOU WERE INTOXICATED BUT NOT THAT YOU WERE JUST INTOXICATED BUT YOU HAD THAT GUN AT THAT MOMENT OF ARREST IN POSESSION BUT NOT JUST IN POSESSION BUT LEGALLY THE Y WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU HAD INTENT LEGALLY THEY CAN NOT DO SHIT WITHOUT MOTIVE OR INTENT ESPECIALLY SINCE ALL OF THIS IS SO CONFUSING IN REALITY HOW DOES IT WORK THEN WITH OFFICERS ON OPIATE MEDS HUH?? OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON MEDICATION WHILE IN A FIRE FIGHT BUT SIMPLE POSSESSION IN CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGAL AND ALL THESE AMENDMENTS WERE ILLEGAL THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO USE DONT LET THEM TRY TO SCARE YOU JUDGES DONT LIKE CIRCUSES NOR DO DA. YOUR LAWYER WILL FIND ALL THE MISTAKES THEY MADE (WHICH WILL BE MANY AND THESE PEOPLE CAN NOT FIGHT YOU IF YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL MEDICAL AILMENT) AGAIN WE ARE ALOUD TO DRIVE AND HAVE MEDS JUST NOT BE ON THEM IN TIME OF DRIVING SO THEY HAVE NO BACKBONE OR BARRING TO STAND IN WHEN IT COMES TO CHARGING YOU FOR FUTURE CRIME. THEY CANT EVEN SAY YOU WHERE A MENACE AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE STATE GUIDES AS EVIDENCE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LEGITIMATE STUDIES ON THE MEDICINAL VALUE THIS IS THEM DOING SHADY SHIT AND THESE KANGAROO COURT ARE BREAKING DOWN WITHIN THEY ARE TRYING TO OVERFILL PRISONS SO THEY CAN GET A BIGGER LOAN AND SAY THEY NEED THE MONEY WHEN THEY ARE STEALING MONEY I HAVE NO IDEA WHY NO LAWYER IS SMART ENOUGH TO TAKE IT TO SUPREME COURT ITS EASY ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SECOND AMENDMENT THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE A DANGER TO YOURSELF OR OTHERS BECAUSE ANYONE CAN SEE VIOLENCE CAN BE CAUSED BY PSYCHOTROPIC MEDICINE WAY MORE THAN MMJ AND THAT WOULD BE PROVEN OBJECTIVELY IN SUPREME COURT WITH A JURY ESPECIALLY IF YOU TESTIFY TO ITS MEDICINAL BENEFITS AND HAVE WITNESSES TO YOUR AILMENT EVEN IF YOU DIDNT HAVE YOUR CARD! LAWYERS NEED TO STOP BEING PUSSIES AND START TRYING TO BRING THIS TO SUPREME COURT!
I'd rather smoke cigarettes but think about what is going on with these illegal drugs
I know that it is illegal to be in possession of a firearm when intoxicated, so obviously it's a no-no with marijuana. In fact, it's worse since it's a schedule 1 substance, whereas alcohol isn't even registered.
BTW: Medicinal, yes. Recreational, no.
Get your poop in a group and make it legal. If not NOW, when?