there's a lot of merit to the hedonistic viewpoint but this argument is philosophical, not scientific, so it rubs me the wrong way that you say it's a fault to see death as a valuable part of the human experience. it's just another point of view, just as valid as any other
I like life, but I'm not clinging onto it. I like the idea of being part of the universe, a bigger system which works on the basis of life and death. You being born takes energy, and one day you'll have to return it by dying. I feel like immortality would disrupt the core mechanics of the universe as one big system. I'm grateful to have this strange, interesting experience of living, but in return I'm willing to die in order for the system to continue on. I don't see it as a spiritual thing, more as one of physics and science.
If you lives forever nothing would have meaning things you need to survive another day wouldn't be needed people would be forever, relationships would not and with a limited amount of resources would deplete
I honestly think immortality (or a lifespan upwards of a few hundred years) would be horrible. Sure, stopping aging at some age and all the negative effects on the body and mind would be desirable. But stopping death (of age) entirely would (in my opinion) very likely lead to massive problems for the individual and society.
In The Matrix, an agent says while torturing Morpheus, "Humans are a disease, and I am the cure." You're right, death does not have to be inevitable and we believe things that make us accept it instead of fight it. But if mankind were an immortal race, the chaos would be unimaginable and we would become a sort of virus, infecting the universe. Maybe death is just there to keep everything in check. It's constantly stopping anything from accumulating to the point where it could take over.
I keep having to come back to this video. Day after day, I encounter so much media preaching the necessity of death and the evils of immortality, and I'm sick of it. I want to grab the creators of these works by the shoulders and tell them "If you believe so strongly that life should end, you could have killed yourself at any time, but clearly you have not done that."
Frankly, I think future me would be insulted if present me just assumed that he will want to die. In fact, it's awfully presumptuous to just assume that old people in general want to die. Do you want to die? Well guess what?! Neither do they!
Sorry for ranting five years after this video came out, but it reflects my own philosophy so strongly and I keep running into this sick death fetish. Rewatching this video is like a breath of fresh air.
I know I'm extremely late to the party, but did anyone else notice, that Death speaks in small caps as he does in the Discworld books by Terry Pratchett?!
If i cross the chasm of eternity , then I live forever.
If i do not, and fsll into the abyss, at least my memory is preserved, as humanity will always remember those who came before. 🌙
I would opt out of immortality, but I thought I was in the minority. 😅I imagined that people generally would be in favor of living forever.
Bonus video for Bonnie Bees: 24 Hours of Death: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMNGEY8OZqo
Oh drunken me was not ready for this
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changed my mind. completely. may have affected my career plans too 🙂
something fascinating and meaningful to work on
a tremendously loud PERIOD.
Misery does give happiness meaning.
there's a lot of merit to the hedonistic viewpoint but this argument is philosophical, not scientific, so it rubs me the wrong way that you say it's a fault to see death as a valuable part of the human experience. it's just another point of view, just as valid as any other
I like life, but I'm not clinging onto it. I like the idea of being part of the universe, a bigger system which works on the basis of life and death. You being born takes energy, and one day you'll have to return it by dying. I feel like immortality would disrupt the core mechanics of the universe as one big system. I'm grateful to have this strange, interesting experience of living, but in return I'm willing to die in order for the system to continue on. I don't see it as a spiritual thing, more as one of physics and science.
If you lives forever nothing would have meaning things you need to survive another day wouldn't be needed people would be forever, relationships would not and with a limited amount of resources would deplete
I honestly think immortality (or a lifespan upwards of a few hundred years) would be horrible.
Sure, stopping aging at some age and all the negative effects on the body and mind would be desirable.
But stopping death (of age) entirely would (in my opinion) very likely lead to massive problems for the individual and society.
In The Matrix, an agent says while torturing Morpheus, "Humans are a disease, and I am the cure." You're right, death does not have to be inevitable and we believe things that make us accept it instead of fight it. But if mankind were an immortal race, the chaos would be unimaginable and we would become a sort of virus, infecting the universe. Maybe death is just there to keep everything in check. It's constantly stopping anything from accumulating to the point where it could take over.
Death is part of life, without death what is life?
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Sounds like Necrophobia dude id get that checked out
I keep having to come back to this video. Day after day, I encounter so much media preaching the necessity of death and the evils of immortality, and I'm sick of it. I want to grab the creators of these works by the shoulders and tell them "If you believe so strongly that life should end, you could have killed yourself at any time, but clearly you have not done that."
Frankly, I think future me would be insulted if present me just assumed that he will want to die. In fact, it's awfully presumptuous to just assume that old people in general want to die. Do you want to die? Well guess what?! Neither do they!
Sorry for ranting five years after this video came out, but it reflects my own philosophy so strongly and I keep running into this sick death fetish. Rewatching this video is like a breath of fresh air.
it's an interesting question, in that would the journey and the destination in our pursuit of immortality change us? would we still be called human?
People say no aging will just leave us as babies. WRONG. No maturation will leave us as babies but no aging means no deterioration, not no maturation.
thanks for saying it might be a lie
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Death's whistle from Puss in Boots TWL would be perfect for this.
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30/90, for me, its 30/32
Finally!
What an interesting topic… too bad instead if covering it you spent a whole video whining about humans perception of death.
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People have gotten so used to death that they find bad ways to cope that cloud their jugement. Like many other things.
Glad to see more people talking about immortality. Immortality = increasing the quotient of invincibility.
It's pretty simple – you WILL live forever, just not on Earth – it's up to you whether it's pleasant or not. Make sure you choose correctly.
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I know I'm extremely late to the party, but did anyone else notice, that Death speaks in small caps as he does in the Discworld books by Terry Pratchett?!
Respectfully it’s 5 am I will be coming back to this video when I can handle the existential dread